[TOT: 11.626.165.000] WTF [CETUS] & LiMeS [CETUS] vs. Bizzle [MCB] (A: 413.452.000, D: 11.212.713.000) 1.3 TRILLION in Profit!

all i can say is wow

Well done guys ,that was fast and with great profit

Bravo, bravo. Beautiful action. I'm very happy I could participate in it, even in this way. Both with my combat quicks and with the opponent's control.

WTF - congratulations again.

Good hit. I was trying to move stuff and click stuff but like you said. Error message after error message after error message. Recyclers were first in the Que so I was trying to spam Detroids but error messages. So couldn’t increase cargo capacity. Then tried to move crystal and deut to call merchant but trying to move fleet caused more error messages. So that was a no go. Then I tried to just build build build but once again… error messages. It was extremely frustrating but not the attackers fault. It was a good hit. Enjoy the resources. The game plan was to get enough crystal and deut to mass build RIPS and then move the rest to only end up with some bashed defenses. But the game was being the game.

Hell of a profit 1.3Tn nice catch. FR rebuild Bizzle

I think when you used all those metal boxes you would have had more success if you had done it in steps. In theory you could have build an armada of large cargo's on one or two of your other planets (and use the insta-fuction) to get them done, but that would have costed you gobs of money.

Nevertheless attacker was quite aware of what you were doing and was just watching and waiting till the best moment, and as you said, no fault to the attacker.

Mega profit WTF. You can afford to build a few colony ships again.

This hit also highlights the fact that this game now more has become a "pay 2 win game" and this is frankly not the old OGame how it used to be back in the mid 2000's. Sadly enough,.

FR. Bizzle, hopefully next time without the errors.

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Bravo, bravo. Beautiful action. I'm very happy I could participate in it, even in this way. Both with my combat quicks and with the opponent's control.

WTF - congratulations again.

The most profitable probes in Ogame US of all time

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Good hit. I was trying to move stuff and click stuff but like you said. Error message after error message after error message. Recyclers were first in the Que so I was trying to spam Detroids but error messages. So couldn’t increase cargo capacity. Then tried to move crystal and deut to call merchant but trying to move fleet caused more error messages. So that was a no go. Then I tried to just build build build but once again… error messages. It was extremely frustrating but not the attackers fault. It was a good hit. Enjoy the resources. The game plan was to get enough crystal and deut to mass build RIPS and then move the rest to only end up with some bashed defenses. But the game was being the game.

I hope you had time to record your screen to send to GF. The software doesn't bug when it comes to cashing in money.

That's a load of crap.

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I saw that he had a small crystal and deuterium storage. I concluded that he would not be able to use enough detroids in 9 minutes.

I took into account that the game does not work perfectly. Each exchange of resources takes quite a long time.

Similarly, clicking quickly on packages or detroids leads to an error and you cannot start the next one without reloading the page.

Bug using ! He knows the bugs in the game

I'm joking ! The profit is insane !

What else can I say? There's no profit without risk. Congratulations!

Massive hit! Amazing profit!

Enjoy

I would like to bring a point in the rules to your attention :

• Trading, recycler help, ACS, profit sharing etc. are not considered "pulling" since the player receiving resources provides value in return. Same rules of "fair play" apply in those cases as usual.

The fact that Limes sends 12,221 probes does not entitle him to claim 50% of the profit.

What do 12,221 probes represent in relation to the entire fleet of attackers?

Especially since WTF writes in black and white that he did all the calculations and took all the risks.

I don't know how Limes has gained +728M points (+53%) since the date of the report.

Either he spent all his money or WTF was more than generous in sharing the profits.

Personally, it bothers me that there are rules regarding the pulling and that they are being circumvented so blatantly.

I know nobody cares, not even the operators, one of whom is in your alliance, but still.

You can put in as much money as you want, but at least show some respect and play fair.

For those who play for the rankings, they're being overtaken by a player with +500M points because he sent 10k probes on ACS. It's ridiculous.

There's nothing left of the game that used to be called Ogame.

All in all, it would be interesting to clarify the situation because if sending 10K probes is enough to get around the pull rule, we should know about it.

Thank you.

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The most profitable probes in Ogame US of all time

I hope you had time to record your screen to send to GF. The software doesn't bug when it comes to cashing in money.

That's a load of crap.

Bug using ! He knows the bugs in the game

I'm joking ! The profit is insane !

What else can I say? There's no profit without risk. Congratulations!

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i took all the screen shots and sent them in to show the game bugging. i also put it in my discord server. mollyspace was less than useful though

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LiMes took part in the battle and got his share according to the rules.

Which rule?

• One player can only pull 500m. One player can receive multiple 500m pulls.
• Trading, recycler help, ACS, profit sharing etc. are not considered "pulling" since the player receiving resources provides value in return. Same rules of "fair play" apply in those cases as usual.

How much did you give him? 500B for sending 10K probes? If that's the case, it's 1000 times more than the allowed pull limit.

This isn't fundamentally a criticism of you, but rather of how this community is run, which is very poorly managed.

If you can get away with bending the pull rule like that, it's because the rule isn't clear.

By my standards, 500B in resources is a lot. To you, it's nothing, but the reality is that it is.

I think that by being able to do whatever you want without anyone telling you anything, you've lost sight of the main point of this game.

You're bending the rules.

Hi Turn

The problem, my dear friend, is that you’re not an authority for anyone in this game.

Because of your rude attitude and constant whining, no one even pays attention to your opinion about OGame — or probably about anything else, for that matter.

Players read your rants and probably think: “Oh, here he goes again with his pseudo-wisdom.”

You seem to believe you know everything about how the game and its rules should work — but you’re wrong, it only seems that way to you.

An alliance is meant to help and support each other, but you probably have no idea what mutual support means, because you’ve never experienced it — precisely due to your poor behavior in this community.

Anyone else would have drawn some conclusions long ago and tried to become a better person in our ogame community. But not you. You keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different reaction.

Tell me — who do you think behaves like that?

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I would like to bring a point in the rules to your attention :

Trading, recycler help, ACS, profit sharing etc. are not considered "pulling" since the player receiving resources provides value in return. Same rules of "fair play" apply in those cases as usual.

The fact that Limes sends 12,221 probes does not entitle him to claim 50% of the profit.

What do 12,221 probes represent in relation to the entire fleet of attackers?

Especially since WTF writes in black and white that he did all the calculations and took all the risks.

I don't know how Limes has gained +728M points (+53%) since the date of the report.

Either he spent all his money or WTF was more than generous in sharing the profits.

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I see that this situation hurts you more than your lack of playing skills.

Just because it's an undeniable fact that without WTF, the fight wouldn't have happened doesn't mean my participation was just "adding" probes.

In our alliance, we play with our entire team, but maybe this is new to you. I feel sorry for you.

Even Bizzle admits that his approach to the plans he wanted to organize and our observation made such a fight possible. It was his mistake. And you, who has the least say in this ST, are the one with the biggest problem. Don't cry unnecessarily.

Before anything else, let me make one thing clear:

This is not a popularity contest.

Whether people like me or not doesn’t change the facts.

As the saying goes — “The majority can be wrong; consensus doesn’t equal truth.”

My goal here is not to start drama or compare communities — it’s to highlight a gap in the OGame.us rules that allows massive abuse under the label of “profit sharing.”

The Issue at Hand

In the recent battle between WTF (top 1) and Limes (top 50), the total profit was around 1.3 trillion resources, and WTF sharing 50% maybe less but still — about 700 billion — with Limes.

Facts:

• WTF did 99.99% of the actual combat.

• Limes sent 12,221 probes — practically nothing.

• WTF handled all the calculations, logistics, and execution.

• Yet Limes walked away with 700 billion resources, which equals over 1,400 times the legal weekly pulling limit.

That’s not “profit sharing.” That’s pulling in disguise.

About the Rules — and Why This Comparison Matters

I know some will say: “This is the US server, not the French server — we play by our own rules.”

Sure. But rules should serve the same purpose everywhere: to keep the game fair.

The French OGame rules explicitly say:

“Profit sharing in ACS/Defenses is allowed as long as each participant is at least reimbursed for their losses.

Spy probes and other insufficient contributions are excluded.

Any abuse will result in the operator refusing the profit share.”

This isn’t about importing foreign rules — it’s about learning from a clearer, tested framework that already prevents the kind of abuse we just saw here.

The current US rule (“profit sharing is not considered pulling since value is provided”) is vague.

But what “value” did Limes provide here? Sending a handful of probes? That’s not value, that’s token participation.

Why This Case Is Disproportionate

• Limes’s contribution was symbolic.

• The profit share (700G) represents years of legitimate gameplay for a top-100 account.

• This transfer gives a massive artificial boost to a weaker ally, bypassing the 500M pulling limit in spirit, if not technically.

• It sets a dangerous precedent: any top player could "share" trillions with friends under the same excuse.

This is exactly why other communities require operators to review “profit shares” for fairness. It’s not bureaucracy — it’s common sense.

Constructive Proposal

I’m not asking for punishment or drama — I’m asking for clarity.

Suggested Amendment for OGame.us:

1. Profit sharing is allowed only if each participant provides a proportionate and tangible contribution (ships, losses, recycling, etc.).
   
2. Symbolic actions (e.g. sending probes) don’t justify large payouts.
   
3. The operator should have authority to reject disproportionate shares as “pulling abuse.”
   
4. Combat and harvest APIs must be submitted for verification.
   

This keeps fair teamwork possible, but stops players from transferring billions under false pretenses.

Final Thoughts

This is not about nationality or popularity — it’s about integrity and equal standards.

Ignoring obvious abuse just because it happens on “our server” only hurts the credibility of the game.

Fair play should mean the same thing everywhere.

Let’s use this case as a chance to clarify the rules, not to circle the wagons around a loophole.

That’s what keeps OGame competitive and fun — for everyone.

I fully understand why WTF and the [CETUS] alliance might prefer things to stay vague.

When the rulebook leaves gaps, those with deep wallets and powerful fleets can twist them however they like — and call it “strategy.”

But fairness isn’t for sale.

Money should never outweigh the rules or the spirit of the game.

If we truly care about OGame’s integrity, then we need clarity — not loopholes.

Let’s fix the rule, not defend the exploit.

Zenitsusan

What is your opinion on profit sharing for an ACS attack?

Sending probes allows you to recover 50% of the profit, i.e. 700B in resources? Isn't that excessive?

What is the point of the rule prohibiting pulling then?

Do you want to keep it? Because clearly it can be circumvented quite easily.

Again congratz : "Similarly, clicking quickly on packages or detroids leads to an error and you cannot start the next one without reloading the page."

Knowing that the game has bugs and taking advantage of them is good.

Once again, It's nothing personal, I'm just stating the facts. it's just that we need to point out the inconsistencies in this game in order to improve it, but nobody cares. No one has an answer. Just saying, we don't like you. That's a 4-year-old's level.

Like everything else, ultimately.

The mediocrity that keeps Ogame running.

Mediocrity of mind, skills, social graces, and the will to progress.

It's just crap.